[Eug-lug] Fwd: Qwest files to deregulate phone rates

Jim K jimkahn12 at clearwire.net
Wed Oct 31 16:56:41 PDT 2007


Michael Miller wrote:
> I don't think Joseph Nacchio has a leg to stand on.  I also don't
> believe what a convicted felon says.  Why has he not said this before?
>  That would have been a great distraction about five years ago when he
> was being investigated.  Mr Nacchio was convicted for insider trading.
>   The same thing Martha Stewart was convicted of in 2004.  Personally
> I have no problems with the call detail records that the NSA asked
> for.  First off they are just records on what phone numbers people
> called and how long they talked do another number.  No personal
> identifying information at all.  If they needed to know who that phone
> number belonged to they would have to go though the courts to get the
> billing information. The analysis the NSA was doing is the same
> analysis the phone companies do to catch phone toll fraud. 

>  Except in this case the NSA was doing it to find people who will cause harm to
> United States citizens.  I could speculate on why Qwest did not turn
> over the records but that would be speculation.
>   
      My concern is that to often we have seen enemies of the state actually
    being political enemies of the party in power.
> Jim K
> -Miller
>
> On 10/29/07, larry price <laprice at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 10/29/07, dooger watts <mikemcoo at efn.org> wrote:
>>     
>>> Except they are one of the few phone providers in amerika who refused to
>>> turn over phone records to the NSA when boosh first started his witch hunt.
>>>       
>> A number of people suggested that their refusal to cooperate was more
>> an inability, technically.
>>
>> Boy, were we wrong.
>>
>> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/10/nsa-asked-for-p.html
>>
>> What does it say about our country when we are more surprised that a
>> CEO didn't sell his customers out to the government in an extra-legal
>> maneuver that could have netted him lucrative contracts than that he
>> stood up (and got nailed on a set of charges so abstruse that no one
>> who isn't an accountant and a lawyer could possibly understand whether
>> or not a crime took place)
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