[Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content protection, hardware and the death of open source in the "consumer" world.

[Ben Barrett]

Re:  years from now... (see Jason's last line)   Bummer!  It has been less
than 60 days...
didn't someone mention not being able to get XP from Dell already?

ben


On 12/29/06, Jason LaPier <jason.lapier at tacs.uoregon.edu> wrote:
>
>  After using and supporting XP for the last four years or so, I'd have to
> admit, it doesn't BSOD as much as earlier versions of Windows - in fact,
> even when I did see a BSOD it was hardware related (bad memory, failing h=
ard
> drive, etc). Anyway, I think the point of the OP was that 98% of Windows
> users could use XP for the next 5 or 10 years if they had to and not even
> blink (as long as their AV works and their OS updates keep coming in) -
> there's no point in upgrading to Vista, because Vista doesn't have anythi=
ng
> additional to offer the web-surfing, word-processing, mp3-playing, general
> pop.
>
> My biggest problem with OS X is lack of UI feedback. Most of the time if
> an application crashes, it just goes away - ugly error messages are hidden
> from the end-users, which both confuses the user and makes support that m=
uch
> more of a pain. Does hiding the error messages make the OS appear more
> stable to the end-user? I don't know. Probably. I just wish there was a w=
ay
> to at least go into System Prefs and check a box somewhere that would cha=
nge
> that behavior.
>
> I've pretty much gotten to the point where I hate Windows and OS X
> equally, but for entirely different reasons. When it comes to user suppor=
t,
> I find Windows easier to troubleshoot (the Event Viewer beats the pants o=
ff
> the 'Console' and googling for Windows errors yields solutions, whereas
> googling for Mac-related problems tends to lead me to propaganda) but of
> course OS X has a much more intuitive interface, cutting down on the "How=
 do
> I" issues. So generally, in my office I let the end-users pick their pois=
on.
> I won't support Vista until vendors like Dell no longer offer XP
> pre-installed, which I have a feeling will be years from now.
>
> - Jason
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* euglug-bounces at euglug.org [mailto:euglug-bounces at euglug.org] *On
> Behalf Of *erock23175 at aol.com
> *Sent:* Friday, December 29, 2006 9:04 AM
> *To:* euglug at euglug.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content protection,hardware and
> the death of open source in the "consumer" world.
>
>   I'd have to say you are talking about mac-users there!
>
> "2% of people are perhaps fortunate enough to have it work all the time.
> Blessed are thosethat have never seen a blue screen and/or never sworn at
> their computer." With of course the exception that I had sworn at my
> computer at least a few times (mostly for the lack of dual-releases on ga=
mes
> and/or game developement tools). I only wish apple spent as much time mak=
ing
> developement suites (if they made any at all) as easy to understand as th=
ey
> did the workings of their os.
>
> -E
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: notanatheist at yahoo.com
> To: euglug at euglug.org
> Sent: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Narrowing Vistas, content protection, hardware and
> the death of open source in the "consumer" world.
>
> That seems a gross over statement. Should be "XP works sometimes
>
> for 98% of the people that use it".
>
>
>
> --- Michael Miller <mike.mikemiller at gmail.com <mike.mikemiller%40gmail.co=
m>> wrote:
>
>
> >XP works just fine for 98% of the people out there.
>
> > Miller
>
> >
>
>
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