[Eug-lug] Anyone wanna help us with a database?
lorraine
lorraine at nextsteprecycling.org
Sun Apr 22 21:03:58 PDT 2007
Hi Silver,
What would you suggest? Not emotionally tied, just happens we all use Macs!
We have a Mac house here. All ideas welcome. So far, all the open source
folks say use ebase. Do you know of some other way we could go?
thanks
lorraine
On 4/22/07 5:03 PM, "silver" <silverlining2007 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lorraine appears to be emotionally tied to a Mac based solution (CRRC
> originally recycled Macs only). However employing application software (even
> if it is "open-source") which runs on a proprietary legacy server platform
> that does not scale very well, is not very well supported and is known to be
> problematic, but at the same time begging for free volunteer sys/db admin
> support just doesn't reasonable. I would presume a small-budget community
> non-profit would desire the best bang for the buck.and dump the legacy stuff
> and go current open-source all the way. And attracting talented volunteer
> technical help would be much more likely then.
>
> Silver
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Sechrest" <sechrest at jas.peak.org>
> To: "Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group" <euglug at euglug.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Anyone wanna help us with a database?
>
>
> Lorraine,
>
> I would not quickly dismiss the comments on filemaker. There are many of us
> that have been burned trying to make filemaker do the right thing.
>
> You may be commited to ebase as a solution, but if filemaker is part of it,
> you are committed to having problems with it.
>
>
>
>
> lorraine <lorraine at nextsteprecycling.org> writes:
>
> % We have filemaker server. Sounds like you all are not interested in
> helping
> % us out, just talk about how you don't like it. That's okay that it
> doesn't
> % meet you standards, but, it is what we have chosen to use after much talk
> % talk with open source folks, nonprofit folks, database folks. We'll go
> % elsewhere for help. Thanks for considering,
> % lorraine
> %
> % On 4/20/07 4:18 PM, "Jason LaPier" <jason.lapier at tacs.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> %
> % > Not only that, but if you want multiple users it requires FileMakerPro
> % > server (which is far from free, as in beer, speech, or anything else),
> % > and I believe any customization needs to be done in FileMaker as well.
> % > When I click on any of the "Common Questions" on this
> % > http://www.ebase.org/dl/ page they all come up as blank pages.
> % >
> % > - Jason L.
> % >
> % > P.S. I could start a rant about this, but I think I'll just go on
> record
> % > as saying "I really, really hate FileMaker."
> % >
> % >
> % >> -----Original Message-----
> % >> From: euglug-bounces at euglug.org
> % >> [mailto:euglug-bounces at euglug.org] On Behalf Of Ben Barrett
> % >> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:06 PM
> % >> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group
> % >> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] Anyone wanna help us with a database?
> % >>
> % >> I think the point Roger brings up is that Ebase does not
> % >> appear to have the usual Free/Libre software licensing terms
> % >> that we all know and love so much :)
> % >>
> % >> I've also never heard of it, but am interested. I have very
> % >> limited openings for additional volunteer work, though!
> % >> Please stay in touch with me about the project, Lorraine.
> % >>
> % >> ben
> % >>
> % >>
> % >> On 4/20/07, lorraine <lorraine at nextsteprecycling.org> wrote:
> % >>>
> % >>> On 4/20/07 12:14 PM, "roger" <roger at eskimo.com> wrote:
> % >>>
> % >>>> On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 07:22 -0700, lorraine wrote:
> % >>>>> After much research, we are going to use a donor
> % >> tracking database
> % >>>>> called ebase. ebase will help us manage donors, prospects,
> % >>>>> volunteers, activists, and email lists. ebase is
> % >> designed to help us become self-sufficient.
> % >>>>>
> % >>>>> ebase is open-source software so it doesn't cost our
> % >> organization any money.
> % >>>>>
> % >>>>> We need someone to volunteer to help us set up the
> % >> database. If you
> % >>>>> have prior ebase knowledge, open source experience, or database
> % >>>>> experience, can you help us?
> % >>>>
> % >>>>
> % >>>> I've never heard of Ebase. (Maybe DBase?) So I took a
> % >> look at the
> % >>>> Ebase.org website.
> % >>>>
> % >>>> To download ebase, one needs to fill out an online
> % >> application with
> % >>>> an email address, address.
> % >>>>
> % >>>> Small *snip* from the website.
> % >>>> "All fields in the form below are required to have data in them.
> % >>>> Download instructions will be sent to your email address."
> % >>>>
> % >>>>
> % >>>> And of course, this one-liner from the front page, "ebase
> % >> can help
> % >>>> you raise more money"
> % >>>>
> % >>>> Me pokes pun here and says, "Does this mean if I download
> % >> 600MB of
> % >>>> free software, I should be rich by now?" ;-)
> % >>>>
> % >>>> Another thing, Ebase seems not to be present within
> % >> Gentoo's Portage.
> % >>>> Nor does a proposed ebuidld or any mention appear in any
> % >> bug reports.
> % >>>>
> % >>>> I do very little work with databases these days, but just thought
> % >>>> I'd put in my two cents. Why Ebase? Are there
> % >> compatibility reasons?
> % >>>> --
> % >>>> Roger
> % >>>> http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/index.html
> % >>>> Key fingerprint = 8977 A252 2623 F567 70CD 1261 640F C963
> % >> 1005 1D61
> % >>>>
> % >>>> Fri Apr 20 12:14:54 PDT 2007
> % >>> We have downloaded and registered. Ebase meets our needs
> % >> the best of
> % >>> all the database software and it is free. We are looking
> % >> for someone
> % >>> to help us set up the fields and brainstorm how to set it
> % >> up to best met our needs.
> % >>> lorraine
> % >>>
> % >>>
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