[Eug-lug] security cameras (followup from march thread)

[Ben Barrett]

Heh, yes, I know about transcoding.  There is always a way to get things
done with software (plus processor & storage & time!!)... this discussion is
trying to suss out the right cards for people's varying needs.  As Alan
wrote, later in this discussion, transcoding takes a lot of time (to do it
well, anyway).

My specific question was actually whether you can get raw video from the
card -- that is, whether mpeg can be avoided at all with this card.  Anyone
know?  Sounds like not!

    Ben


On 9/4/06, Michael Miller <mike.mikemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ben,
>
> What you want too do is called transcoding.  This link from a google
> search (
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&ct=3Dres&cd=3D6&url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.m=
ythtv.org%2Fdocs%2Fmythtv-HOWTO-23.html&ei=3DzMP8RLKdM4bgwAKhxKiWDg&sig=3D_=
_qZCORl10r4N9jOI2SClVU12PZt0=3D&sig2=3DkVN0VaL95j7ZwCBu1PM_xg
> ).  Takes you to the mythtv.org documents / how-to section.  Mr O has
> mentioned with out  encoding / decoding hardware.   Your CPU usage
> will be higher because you will be doing software encoding from MPEG-2
> too what ever codec your transcoding too.  Due to dual core CPU
> technology, encoding / decoding acceleration hardware that is
> supported under what ever OS you are using.  You will not tax your CPU
> as much as having one CPU or no hardware acceleration.
>
> Mike Miller
>
>
> On 9/3/06, Ben Barrett <stircrazyben at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I thought that benefit of the wintv-pvr model# 350 was also a major
> gripe --
> > if I read right (disclaimer: somewhere, a while ago!) you can *only* get
> > mpeg2 video out of this card... does anyone have one and know if you can
> get
> > the raw video, to do your own encoding with?  That is, as opposed to
> > decoding the mpeg2 stream, then re-encoding it (yuck, with the mpeg2
> > artifacts, although I guess you could set that to the highest
> quality)...
> > so if this is true, it would depend on your desired usage.  NewEgg
> doesn't
> > seem to carry the 350, although they have various 150 models ($53-$85),
> with
> > and without remotes.  Even a low-profile 150 model, nice!  Amazon has
> the
> > 350 for $134.  The model# 500 has dual mpeg encoders&tuners.
> >
> > cheerio,
> >
> >     Ben
> >
> > PS - BTW, anyone know if the "MCE" models are any different from a
> > linux-user's perspective?  And this 1.5-yr-old review says the 250 is
> the
> > same as the 350:
> > http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3D2393&p=3D8
> > Looks to me like the MCE models have more outputs, and that *all*
> wintv-pvr
> > models have the mpeg encoder... and that the 350 and 500 (and usb2) are
> the
> > only wintv-pvr models with an FM tuner.
> > huh?   http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/prods_pvr.html
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Mr O < notanatheist at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Always Hauppauge. I don't think there's a better supported card
> > > available with the exception of the PCHDTV 3000 which is a linux
> > > only HDTV card with no hardware encoding/decoding. Get a
> > > Hauppauge PVR 250 or 350. The 350 features hardware encoding and
> > > decoding!
> > >
> > > TBA,
> > > Mr O.
> > >
> > > --- Brian Gallagher <baggab at pacinfo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My neighbor has MythTV and I'm jealous!  What kind of tuner
> > > > video cards
> > > > are recommended?
> > > >
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