[Eug-lug] AVG virus protection software

Wed Dec 6 11:52:17 PST 2006

Thanks Jamie,

The info about USB extension cables was interesting and the antenna info 
was helpful.  I think I will get an the antenna Garl mentioned and the 
USB cable for outside (under cover mount.)  I'll get back to you.

Brian

LinuxRocks! wrote:
> Brian,
> 	So, You may have a couple options that you havnt considered. 
> We've discussed making a bridge, another similar option is to make a 
> client out of a router (ive done this with wrt54g's, and this can also 
> be done with other routers too...) Client mode turns the router in to 
> a big wireless adapter (only you connect to it via ethernet instead of 
> usb) The advantage to doing this is that you can add high gain (really 
> high gain...) antenna, you can tweek the radio and stuff to get better 
> signal. This is probably the best you can do it, and one of the more 
> expenssive, time consuming ways. (and this method doesnt require getting 
> wireless to work in linux, because as far as your computers concerned, 
> your just hooking up to a wired network.)
>
> 	You could also get extension usb cables, and run your usb wifi 
> adapter outside, or to the garage, or wherever you get signnal. This is 
> the solution im using for local folks that cant get a decent signal 
> level inside thier rv. I got some 15' usb extension cables on ebay, and 
> 15' isnt too far for usb (I havet had to try using 2 extensions yet, 
> but im leary that wont work...)
>
> I have mostly Linksys gear, so im most familiar with it, but you can do 
> most things with any brand (although, i dont recommend netgear...)
>
> Im using several wrt54g's right now to access the internets. I have 
> several wrt54g's running dd-wrt, with high gain antenna, and they work 
> like champs! (just doent leave them outside (uncovered)in the rain!!!! i 
> can't stress this enough)
>  
> Buying high gain antenna will make a big difference, its really needed 
> for the xmit antenna (many units have 2 antenna one rx the other tx), 
> its the tx antenna that will benefit the most, and putting antenna on 
> the access point will be more effective than on the adapter.
>
> Jamie
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:09:06AM -0800, Brian Gallagher wrote:
>   
>> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:09:06 -0800
>> From: Brian Gallagher <baggab at pacinfo.com>
>> To: Eugene Unix and Gnu/Linux User Group <euglug at euglug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Eug-lug] AVG virus protection software
>>
>> Garl Grigsby wrote:
>>     
>>> Brian Gallagher wrote:
>>>       
>>>> It looks like AVG will not be free any more after January 15th.  Now 
>>>> I am looking for suggestions for a replacement.
>>>>         
>>> Avast. (www.avast.com).  You have to login once every 14 months, but 
>>> it is a superior product to AVG. No money involved for home users.
>>>       
>> Thanks for the tip!
>>     
>>>> Some Background:  I use a wireless share for my connection for my web 
>>>> access.  I pay my house mate to be part of his network, so this is 
>>>> not road warring!  I am on the edge of the wireless router range, so 
>>>> the signal is weak to begin with and drops out frequently 
>>>> complicating my wireless technical development.  I have setup a test 
>>>> station that is much closer to the router, but its cold in the 
>>>> garage, if you know what I mean!
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Buy a higher gain antenna. Better yet, buy two. One for the client and 
>>> one for the WAP. I've used these [1] in the past and they are well 
>>> worth the money. Gained an extra 200 feet in one direction and a solid 
>>> signal through three walls in th other. If you watch you can get 
>>>       
> them 
>   
>>> for < 15 shipped after rebate. Or you could always build your own 
>>> antenna...
>>>       
>> I would like to have a conversation with you about antennas.  Ben 
>> recommended a bridge and I appreciate that offer, but this wireless 
>> share is transitory.  Wireless bridges are generally expensive and if 
>> the share situation changes I could end up with a bridge to nowhere, so 
>> to speak.
>>
>> The picture of the high gain antenna that you suggest show the antenna 
>> on a pedestal, held down with a nut.  Do I remove the nut and fasten 
>> antenna onto the post of the WAP w/ its antenna removed or is there some 
>> connecting hardware not shown?
>>
>> Building an antenna sounds interesting, do you have "hands on" 
>> experience there?  I would need some tech help on that.
>>
>>     
>>>> Given that I don't know much about wireless accept what I have 
>>>> learned from trial and error, it has been rough to get to a Linux 
>>>> implementation of wireless networking.  At present I am still using 
>>>> windows.  Frankly, I just kept giving up too easily and never really 
>>>> tried to get things running, as other work has take priority.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> What card are you using?
>>>       
>> I have four cards, all D-link.  I have no allegiance to D-Link, I just 
>> bought a set, on sale: wireless router, PCI and USB cards when I got 
>> started looking into wireless.   I am working on the assumption that I 
>> have to test these cards under Windows to prove a "known good" status 
>> before delving into the Linux unknown.
>>
>> DWL-G510 (PCI)  this card had a history of flakyness under WinMe (hey, 
>> its Me what did I expect.  I haven't tried it under XP.  The one thing 
>> PCI does seem to have is greater range!)
>>
>> DWL-G520 (PCI) this card was found  in a computer by side of the road 
>> that some Frat Boys had take a baseball bat to.  Status unknown.
>>
>> DWL-G120 (USB) this card is the one I use primarily.  It has a long 
>> dongle cord and I have it run up the wall close to the ceiling.  When I 
>> was playing with setting it up with Ubuntu I ran into the "which rev is 
>> the chipset issue."  I chickened out on opening the housing to view the 
>> chipset, as this is my web access, unless I want to sit in the cold 
>> garage and I don't.
>>
>> DWL-G122 (USB) this card in promising.  Ubuntu showed a Marvel chipset, 
>> if I remember correctly.  The issue with these thumb drive type wireless 
>> cards is signal range; and with a short dongle cord to a pedestal base,  
>> I can't work the antenna directionality as I would like.
>>
>> Give me till after the holidays, I would like to revisit this discussion 
>> and solve this problem once and for all.  Also, I got a how-to specific 
>> to this DWL-122 card and Ubuntu and it mentioned the software setup.  
>> I'll have to find that documentation.
>>
>> As with everything Linux, while I've been frittering, someone has 
>> already solved the issue and I just need to update my OS version, etc, 
>> etc. will probably be the case.
>>     
>>>> Here is my question: should I stop worrying about virus protection 
>>>> and make implementing Linux wireless my top priority, because virus 
>>>> threats are low under Linux; Therefore, would I be better off running 
>>>> Linux, with no virus protection, then to keep working with windows 
>>>> and outdated AVG software?
>>>>         
>>> That's up to you. If you are going to keep using windows, then get an 
>>> A/V solution. Also, make sure you are running Firefox and Thunderbird.
>>>       
>> I am running Firefox and Thunderbird.
>>
>> Thanks Garl,
>>
>> Brian
>>     
>>> Garl
>>>
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