[Eug-lug] Security Focus interview with Marcus Ranum

Jacob Meuser jakemsr at jakemsr.com
Wed Jun 22 17:25:18 PDT 2005


On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 03:49:29PM -0700, Jason wrote:
> I agree with some of Jacob's points, but I think there
> is a bit of a disconnect between:
> 
> > yeah, security is hard.  it's not something that
> > just happens.
> 
> and 
> 
> > sorry, but as we've discussed before, if you leave
> > your front
> > door open, it's your fault if someone comes and
> > takes your stuff.
> 
> At this stage of the game, there aren't many
> enterprises that I'd say are leaving their front doors
> open. Rather, with giant networks, 10s of thousands of
> hosts, 100s of applications to support, remote
> offices, etc. ad infinitum, the issue is that security
> is indeed difficult, and its near impossible to
> properly address every risk in any size environment. 
> 
> I don't see any 'endgame' with regard to
> infosec/hackers/etc. I look at the landscape the same
> way as normal cops and robbers - people will continue
> to commit crimes, and a huge number of $ will be spent
> (and people employed) to try and address the problem. 
> 
> A sad and pessimistic viewpoint, but I believe it's
> realistic. 

agreed.  however, the interview was not at all optimistic.  there
_are_ new methods that actually help.  there _are_ things going in
the right direction.

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