[Eug-lug] Computer time

[Max Lemieux]

Agreed, vi seems to be the universally present editor. I haven't used 
emacs so can't comment on it; with vi the main learning curve was 
getting used to the "insert mode, overwrite mode, command mode" 
paradigm. After that it seems pretty straightforward.

For a new user who is working on only one machine though, I'd still 
recommend nano for painlessness. :)

-Max


larry price wrote:

>If you only have time to learn one, pick up vi
>it's on pretty much every box you'll ever talk to 
>and works in amazingly tight corners.
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>but don't give up on emacs, the learning curve is steep
>and it can save you amazing amounts of time and stress.
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>My .02 units of negotiable currency
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>On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:31:54 -0800 (PST), Allen Brown <abrown at peak.org> wrote:
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>>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Bob Miller wrote:
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>>>walter fry wrote:
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>>>>Ifound the cat command     now how do I change arc from true to
>>>>false....Please
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>>>Use a text editor.  Linux has 70 or 80 text editors to choose from.  I
>>>think I recall that you're using a GUI, so try kedit or gedit.
>>>
>>>      kedit /etc/sysconfig/clock
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>>>If you're not using a GUI, try nano, vi or emacs.
>>>--
>>>Bob Miller                              K<bob>
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>>I recommend that you learn one of the real editors, one that doesn't
>>require a GUI.  Otherwise if you find you have to do repairs from
>>outside of X windows, you will be SOL.
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>>The top contenders are vi and emacs.  Both are very powerful and
>>both are used by real programmers.  Both are commonly installed on
>>most Unix systems.  Both are backed by fanatics with religious zeal.
>>Both have a long history.
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>>emacs
>>  + Basically Modeless.  Ordinary characters are always inserted.
>>  - Complex.  And very large.
>>  + Totally programmable and reconfigurable.
>>  - Harder on your fingers because of all the control characters
>>    you have to type.  Avoid emacs if you have carpal tunnel.
>>  + If you are merging the contents of several files into one,
>>    emacs is hard to beat.
>>vi
>>  + Almost everything can be done with one finger.
>>  - You have to remember if you are in insert mode, overwrite mode,
>>    command mode.
>>  + Small and fast.
>>  + Because it avoids control characters it tends to be more
>>    compatible with serial port protocols.
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>>Now that the subject is presented, I'm sure several people will
>>try to turn this into a religious arguement about why their choice
>>is the only choice.  It happens every time both editors are mentioned.
>>--
>>Allen Brown
>>  work: Agilent Technologies      non-work: http://www.peak.org/~abrown/
>>        allen_brown at agilent.com             abrown at peak.org
>>  No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism.
>>  --- Sir Winston Churchill
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